tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370556203694333428.post3236917018971860868..comments2024-03-17T23:57:33.381-04:00Comments on You Picked a Fine Time to Leave Me Loose Wheel: I was too judgemental.Elektra Q-Tionhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03732580444053444826noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370556203694333428.post-68154037266045422092014-02-24T22:30:51.985-05:002014-02-24T22:30:51.985-05:00:):)Elektra Q-Tionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03732580444053444826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370556203694333428.post-19926072255983662862014-02-23T20:10:01.171-05:002014-02-23T20:10:01.171-05:00Thanks for writing this Q. I'm clearly a wanna...Thanks for writing this Q. I'm clearly a wannabe because my life doesn't have room to be serious about derby right now. From the wannabe seats, it looks like there is a movement in derby to be taken more seriously. That's understandable- there are a lot of amazing athletes who deserve serious respect. But sometimes the secret to looking strong is realizing that there is nothing to defend. A defensive attitude makes people seem insecure, which is the opposite of what they intend to communicate. <br /><br />Avoiding a defensive outlook has other benefits. The more open and inclusive you can be, the more support you will have. Why does the Carolina Ballet take the risk of putting hundreds of kids on a professional stage for Nutcracker? Yes, they are adorable. Sure, a few of them will become the next generation of professional dancers. But they also bring in all their family and friends, which generates a wider audience and a bigger circle of support. <br /><br />I appreciate that some leagues just don't have room to provide opportunities for people who have recreational goals. But I hope they won't look down on them either. For every wannabe that expects more from derby than she gives in commitment, there are many more who want to participate for fun and fitness and apply what they learn in pursuit of other areas of excellence. Heidi Clevelandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06982808830362954434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370556203694333428.post-58362302742934758482014-02-19T12:12:43.428-05:002014-02-19T12:12:43.428-05:00You would think so wouldn't you? Alas the peop...You would think so wouldn't you? Alas the people who want to be casual derby girls usually think they should have special exceptions, pay per practice, that kind of thing, leaving the rest of us to foot the bill. I have no problem if someone only wants to come when it is good for them, but I have a major problem with that person thinking they don't have to pay dues or are automatically on the roster. They also whine that things are too official, there's too many rules, they don't like the charter (the one they voted in) and so on ad nauseum. I wholeheartedly agree with this article if those people are being reasonable and living up to other league expectations such as dues, but when they're not, you bet your ass I'll be judgemental, because they are expecting special treatment when they don't pull their weight in the first place. The girls and guys who are there every week working their asses off don't get special treatment so why should anyone else!? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370556203694333428.post-23115482693288183932014-02-18T13:33:09.469-05:002014-02-18T13:33:09.469-05:00I enjoy derby mainly as a hobby, no I don't tr...I enjoy derby mainly as a hobby, no I don't train 5 days a week & go to the gym, but I always work hard to improve my skills as a skater as that is what is important to me. We have lot's of girls who come along and join our team as a hobby because they enjoy the skating. In my team I'd say there are about 5 skaters who take it seriously because they have high ambitions. this is why derby is great because skaters with differing ambitions can skate along together & it's fun. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14542025380206756737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370556203694333428.post-53776616859358911572014-02-17T19:44:28.419-05:002014-02-17T19:44:28.419-05:00I've had a few conversations in the past that ...I've had a few conversations in the past that have gone along the lines of:<br /><br />Them: "Oh my friend's a derby girl!"<br />Me: "Yeah cool! What's their name?"<br />Them: " *Insert name here* "<br />Me: ".......Sorry, but that person just doesn't skate with us!"<br /><br />Such a conversation killer..rosy rockethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00605882622149458656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370556203694333428.post-77225880490666871952014-02-17T12:57:02.419-05:002014-02-17T12:57:02.419-05:00I think thats a separate issue, and a very valid o...I think thats a separate issue, and a very valid one to say "Well if you didn't like it, you should have shown up to the meeting/discussion/vote" <br /><br />Rolando Darkjesterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05520782306737535570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370556203694333428.post-75621930246521304962014-02-17T09:46:38.796-05:002014-02-17T09:46:38.796-05:00I think this is where having good organizational s...I think this is where having good organizational structure really comes into play, and it can take time to develop. It's not unreasonable to ask people to make a commitment, but generally people react better when they know (more or less) what they're going to commit to and what they're going to get beforehand, and with derby, it can be really hard to tell sometimes. Some organizations aren't large enough to really accommodate more than one or two levels of commitment, which I think is okay. A highly competitive league with limited space and practice time can't reasonably be expected to accommodate a small group of skaters looking for a rec league experience, and I think that that's okay, honestly. It's a bummer, but it's okay. I agree that judginess doesn't help anyone that much, but I think it's also okay to say "our organization isn't structured to accommodate the level of commitment you want to provide at this time."Bebehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14499453719169655368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7370556203694333428.post-78345437363737423312014-02-17T08:01:07.232-05:002014-02-17T08:01:07.232-05:00And what about when they think they should get spe...And what about when they think they should get special privileges? Like when they think they shouldn't pay full dues because they only want to come once a week? The people who don't come to meetings and vote but then whine about the decisions made. Because these are the people who are going to be passively aggressively posting this all over Facebook today - telling those of us who go to practice, who pay our dues, who don't whine when a league decision doesn't always go our way - that WE are the problem. :/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com